anyone own a Jericho baby eagle..?
 

Im about to buy a 941 .9mm ...I was wondering how hard parts are to find?

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It gets decent reviews for accuracy and quality, but it is priced in line with comparable 9mms that are more common like the XD or Glocks. Being that it is an Israeli clone of the CZ, I wouldn't expect that OEM or aftermarket parts are readily available like they would be for more popular models like Glock so if that is a concern, I would think about other options.

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I've heard good things about the Baby Eagle, I was going to buy one myself, but couldn't find a local dealer that had one at the time. I ended up with a CZ-85 (ambidextrious version of the 75) instead.

I found one later and got to play with it (but not shoot it!) and I really liked it. I would still consider getting one for myself, but I'm really really really pleased with the CZ.

Here is a site to read if you haven't:
http://www.best9mm.com/

Kind of subjective, but a good comparision and review of 9mm's in my opinion!

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If I was going to get a CZ clone I would get an EAA Witness instead because of better aftermarket support. Then again if I was going to get a CZ clone I would just get a real CZ. The Czech Republic is one of the few European countries that still allows its citizens to carry concealed weapons and that is worth supporting. Israel is just attaching some marketing buzzwords to their knockoff of the Czech design and honestly the real CZ is the nicer pistol between the two.

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too late..I bought it.. I feel in love with the gun. Out of the many handguns I have tried this one felt right.. sort of magical..

Guns are like men.. when you find one you really like you just have to work with their flaws and maintenance issues.. :bear_tongue:

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It's an amazing weapon. Small, very concealable. The most accurate gun I've ever fired. After I bought it I went to the pistol range. I remember firing all the rounds and as the target moved back to me I said where the hell are the holes, dont tell me I missed that badly...Three bulls eyes, 8 in black...I took my target to the gun store owner and he almost pissed himself when I showed it to him.

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It's a GOOD THING to follow your heart re: pistols and how they fit your hand. It doesn't matter how super-duper a pistol is. If it doesn't "fit", you'll never feel comfortable with it. I sold my Glock 21 pistol to a friend a couple years ago for that reason. The pistol was accurate & reliable, but the grip was just too freakin' large for my hands. Yes, I could have ground down (& re-filled with epoxy) the backstrap or sent it to Robar/Arizona Response Systems for similar work, but didn't want to deal with the hassle.

Don't forget to buy some spare mags for your new pistol.

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I picked up my 9mm 941 Jericho yesterday right before the snow storm started. I wont get chance to play with it before we dig out in a few days:(

It did not come with a manual as it was used. The gun guy it was mailed to said it was in very good shape after he inspected it. He really liked it.

I had a question on ammo. Somewhere in the videos I watched it said something about not using P or Plus ammo.. What about 9 mm 115 grain luger's? ....I have 5 boxes of those but thought I better ask before I shot.. If not what is the proper 9mm ammo for it.. ? I dont mind spending more to avoid any misfires... Also does anyone know where I can get extra magazines for it?

This is a youtube video on the Jericho that seems to be be helpful..

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Being of a modern design I don't see why +P ammo would be a problem with your new pistol. +P means the cartridges are loaded a little hotter; the bullet driven to a higher velocity. Standard 115 grain 9mm Luger ammo will work perfectly with your pistol. Other bullet weights you may encounter at the store are 124 grain (Nato standard) and 147 grain (a heavier bullet which gives deeper penetration).

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what the price of the gun if i can ask

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You are wise, Master.

XOXO

Grasshopper

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It was $379 used and in very good condtion. It only has one magazine though. I bought it on gunbrokers so I didnt have to pay tax and a friend was able to be the FFL for delivery so I got off pretty easy..

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yeah, my gun friend was confused about the +P too.. This is a really heavy solid gun.. I was reading a discussion board that is going to try and market the Jericho. They want to market it as the gun that will get you through SHTF because its so sturdy and reliable..... I will go read that discussion board and see if anyone can confirm not running +Ps.. I like the 9mm Luger's because I can usually find them cheap at walmart and I plan on going through a lot of ammo when I fire that rascal up at the range..

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Yeah, yer a wise guy alright Avalon. :moon: Ooops, I mean :rose: :biggrin:

May your Eagle soar... and that's a misnomer, it ain't no baby. :ok:

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hmmm... perhaps we should debate if males or females are higher maintenance. :shine:
The man who taught me to shoot started our lessons by saying this.. Men are like Revolvers, simple and easy to operate. Woman are like semi automatics, they have more parts and are more complicated..
I of course picked a revolver for my first gun... Now I am wondering what I am missing and want a complicated semi automatic. I think men might view woman the same way.. :s10:

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As I said, you are wise, Master.

:s1:

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I finally got to the Range to shoot my new 9mm Jericho last night!!!! :23_30_104:

Here is my evaluation. The gun is really smooth. The lack of recoil is amazing. SB, you were asking if you thought the women in your family could work the slide.. It is a big heavy gun and the slide is hard.. On the other hand when I followed instructions on how to rack the slide properly with the gun on its side instead of the way I had been doing it I didn't have much problem. I also did really well loading my magazines..The Jericho gives you lots of places for a good grip. The trigger pull is a little long. I dont have large hands and was able to reach it. My hands are medium sized. My daughter has munchkin hands and I think she will be able to work the gun.

I was a little disappointed. I had two misfires in the first two magazines. The Instructor said that is not uncommon with a new gun and sometimes you have to break them in.. I was glad I had the misfires there with supervision to help me clear them since I am new to a semi automatic. They still unnerve me since I had a long hang fire the first time I ever shot. I also had a few shells get stuck and had to clear those. All in all it was a great learning experience for getting acquainted with the gun.. The only bad part is my shooting sucked!! I was nailing the target with my 38 and my 20 gauge shot gun with slugs but I was all over the place with the Jericho. I dont think the Range is the right place to figure out the sites. It was too dark, my target was too far away and I really could not see where I was shooting to correct it because the range doesn't go cold often enough..

Ill play with it at home and hopefully figure out the sites..I dont think they are adjustable..All in all its a great and fun gun to shoot.. I still dont trust a semi automatic though. If I needed a gun for protection ill stick with my little SW 38 revolver.

Note to SB.. I am growing quite fond of my 20 gauge now. Who would have thought it!!! I shot the hell out of it last night. Im shooting slugs on the range and Im pretty accurate at a distance with it.

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Since you say you were all over the place with it my guess is the sights won't need adjustment. Misaligned sights would deliver a tight group in the wrong place. More than likely you just need to get familiar with the new piece. The best advice I can give you for improving accuracy is keep a tight grip on the pistol with your thumb and middle finger, keep your ring finger and pinky relatively loose. Focus on the front sight, the target will be nothing but a blur. That's fine, you can nail the center of that blur with a rifle at 100 yards no sweat. I know it seems weird and counter-intuitive but if you can see your target clearly you won't hit it. Just put that front sight you're focusing on right in the center of that blur. Then squeeze the trigger so slow it surprises you. If you're startled when the gun goes off you'll probably find your shot hit your point of aim dead on.

What kind of misfires did you have? Did the rounds just not fire? That can be bad ammo, but it would be unusual to have several duds in just a box or two of ammo. Otherwise it could be light strikes which may mean a weak mainspring or gunk/burrs in your firing pin channel. It might be worth removing the pin and cleaning it out.

Shells getting stuck sounds like a classic stovepipe. Usually with a CZ clone this means you have a weak extractor spring. It's easy to replace but you need a pin punch to do it. I recommend using Wolff Gunsprings for replacements.

A good auto will be out and out more reliable than a revolver. A revolver has one advantage over an auto in terms of reliability and that is that if you have a dud bullet the revolver will skip right over it and go to the next round. Otherwise revolvers are internally more complex than autos and rely on more and more precise alignments of parts. Even beyond that the revolver is a more open design than the auto so there are more opportunities to introduce debris that can make the action malfunction. For instance you can drag an auto through the mud, pick it up and fire. With a revolver there is a good chance you got mud in front of the bullets in your cylinder and it's possible to clog the frame enough the cylinder won't want to turn. Not good stuff. Revolvers definitely have their place, I will always have revolvers for certain purposes, but there's a reason they were phased out from military service early last century.

500 rounds should be enough to do a decent break in on your Jericho. If it's not acting right at 1,000 rounds you will probably want to consider having someone qualified check it out or else sell it. If you do end up having to sell it and want something that has all the things you liked about the Jericho just more reliable I would again suggest taking a look at a real CZ instead of a clone. The CZ P0-1 makes a good carry piece and has a redesigned trigger that will help with the length of the trigger pull for you too. In fact the CZ P-01's trigger can be retrofitted on most CZ models.

Another trick is to carry the pistol with the hammer at halfcock. This is just as safe as carrying with the hammer all the way down and has the bonus of helping out with the length of the trigger pull. The trigger will still start out just as far forward but it will be very light until you take up the slack which will give you more leverage and a nicer first shot trigger pull.

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I have one. I called Magnum Research and they said it is not designed for +P ammo and it should not be used. Personally, I only use +P ammo in guns where the manufacturer explicitly says it is OK.

I should add that in about 1000 round of Winchester white box and wolf steel case, i have never has a misfire, failure to feed, stove-pipe or any other type of problem.

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My gals all shoot....so here are some opinons and comments

#1 congrats for buying a gun that fits you that is extremely important

#2 P+ ammo is loaded 5% heavyer....+p+ is over 10% heavyer....most manufactorers will tell you if P+ ammo will work in your gun....do a web search or send a email.....

#3 Ammo....we practice with the cheapest ammo we can find in brass cases because we shoot so much........but when we first get a gun we do take the time to try several GOOD DEFENSE ammo's to find one that works great with the gun....for us we use 115grain-124g hollow point ammo...and that is what we load in the guns for carry purposes

#4 you mention missfires....you might want to clairify what type of missfire/jam/etc...."missfires" can be the result of...ammo-opperator-gun....and are usually correctable

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when I say misfire I mean the bullet went into the chamber but never fired. I waited 30 seconds and then ejected the bullet. I shot about 75 round and had four of those and two or three stove pipes also.. I was shooting Federal 9 mm luger ammo..

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good post.. Ill play with the Jericho some more and if these things are still an issue will have the things you suggested checked out..

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I got a I got a Charles Daly Jericho
but since Charles Daly went of of business a few days ago
it is now a collector piece

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Feel is everything. I just bought a Browning BDM for the same reason.

And the manual? http://www.magnumresearch.com/docs/m...BY%20EAGLE.pdf

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That's a great post there - and I second the CZ recommendation - I just love em. Reliable and highly accurate for the price range they tend to eat anything without issues. They are the most issued pistol in the world and there is almost as many goodies out there for CZ 75's as there are for Glocks. For me - a SA/DA with a decocker is how I like my pistols - CZ makes it happen. Also, lots of nice compact and sub compact options from CZ.

In fact - I just stole one that was on consignment at a local shop around here...

75 BD barely fired - no marks/wear and a nice wrap around Hogue grip....$400 !! Pic is not mine - scrapped it off the net...same model ect... You can get these with 18 round mags as well. Also, If you are looking for some holster options at a decent price - check out Falco - I love everything I have ever purchased from them - great prices for quality products and they do have an e-bay shop.

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It never fails.

Whenever I manage to convince myself that my next gun will be a semi-auto, rather than a revolver, I read an account like this.

6-7 misfires, out of 75 rounds fired?

Sure, if you�re an infantryman, crawling through the mud, a semi-auto is probably a superior combat sidearm.

But for personal defense? in an urban setting? In the hands of novice shooter?

In that instance I would guess that a typical revolver is probably, oh, about 10,000 times more reliable than an equivalent semi-auto.

Yes, definitely stick to your revolver for personal defense duty.

I�ve put about 750 rounds through my SP101 with nary a hiccup.

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Given your options... carry the revolver.

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What Avalon experienced is not typical of what you can expect from a quality autoloader running decent ammo. Concealed carry is within the scope of what revolvers are good for. Hunting too. The downside to carrying a revolver for self defense is the low capacity and slow reloading. The 5 to 7 shots the common CCW revolver may carry is usually going to be good enough but statistically you'll run into an unusual self defense situation long before you ever run into your first jam with a serious autoloader like a Glock. I'm not saying don't carry a revolver, just understand the strengths and weaknesses.

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hopefully its just working the kinks out of the gun..I really like the Jericho but it will take a while for me to learn to trust it .... As far as my trusty little SW38 airlite goes my shooting is very accurate even at a fair distance for such a short barrel.. If I cant drop someone in 5 rounds maybe I need to go back to the Range and get more practice..

We are going to take a whole day at the Range and do Tactical courses. Things change when your target moves and fires back!

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The kinds of problems you reported are usually easy to fix. Just be sure to get that stuff looked into.

This goes with this.

It's easy to hit a paper target 5 times with a revolver on a square range. It's not even too hard to hit 5 popup targets on a tactical range. It's a whole nother world when there's multiple assailants(the rule, not the exception) and they're resisting your efforts. First thing, accuracy goes right out the window. A zombie can also absorb a lot of fire if it isn't striking anything critical. You may need to lay down some suppressive fire if you encounter a band of orcs. A revolver and the will to use it is a great thing, some training to go with it is even better. All that said, your Jericho would be the superior fighting implement if you can work out the couple issues you mentioned.

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We went out and fired the Jericho outdoors today where I could see the target. Three of us shot.. Two out of three people had no problem hitting near bullseyes every time with no misfires... I was still all over the place.. It looks like the gun if fine and its operator error.. :hissyfit_m:

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Did you ever figure out what all the malfunctions were about ? or did I miss that post. Seems alot of coments on break in period, yet if it was a used but great condition, would the gun not already have been broke in? Not being a smart arse, looking at a couple used pistols myself, doing the price/vs new debate in my head.

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Woo-Hoo, My Jericho and I made peace today!:23_30_104:

I listened to my Instructor instead of being stubborn because he really pisses me off sometimes.. I moved the target up 5 yards, I used a white target so I could see where each shot landed, I changed the grip on my left hand and I painted my sites.. It worked like a charm even after I moved my target back some. I was not dead center but I was close with tight groups slightly to the lupper left.. The Jericho sure is a fun gun to shoot.!!

I also got to shot yet another assortment of fancy replica 22 pistol owned by the Lady marksman who also shoots there. She has the finest assortment of 22 pistol you can imagine. I did really well with them and the guns are gorgeous but they have no zing, no bang-bang. They just sort of go pop..

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those seems to work themselves out. I guess my Instructor was right about there being too much residue from gun oil ...Once I cleaned it again and getting all the oil out it has not had any more misfires..